[ome-users] Simple Question, OME or OMERO?

Fri Jan 18 10:18:45 GMT 2008

Dear Jerome and Mario-

Thanks for your emails.  It's good to have these discussions.  A few  
points:

-- We've tried to address the issue of why two servers on our web  
site-- see:

http://www.openmicroscopy.org/downloads/why2servers.html

and

http://www.openmicroscopy.org/downloads/what-they-do.html

Note that these are a bit out of date, and will be updated soon, but  
the basic principles remain.

-- To see what OMERO can do, we've produced a series of screencast  
demos-- see the movies at:

http://www.openmicroscopy.org/downloads/what-they-do.html

-- Can the OMERO Beta series be used for production?  We use OMERO in  
my lab, the instances we have hold between 0.5 and 1 TB and so far,  
up to ~2.5 million image planes.  The reason it is called Beta is  
that we don't want to release software as "final" until we have  
tested it thoroughly.  Becasue the software is used for data, we want  
to be extra careful.  In any case, it's your data, so we STRONGLY  
recommend you back it up-- we've all had software crash.

-- OMERO does not yet support Matlab, but we are currently working on  
that now.  Put "matlab" into the search window at our project  
management system (http://trac.openmicroscopy.org.uk/omero) and  
follow the info for ticket 846.  Like your labs, we use Matlab alot,  
and need to support this.

-- What's wrong with the OME Server?  Nothing-- it's not perfect, as  
you can imagine.  Many people felt it was difficult to use (but many  
also liked it), but for a variety of reasons, we decided to build an  
alternative server system to address requests for an "OME Lite".  In  
the end (hopefully by the end of this year), OMERO will have most of  
the functionality of OME.  A major goal for OMERO, now achieved, was  
flexibility in choice of DB, server operating system, and client  
architecture.

-- Will OMERO replace OME?  We won't decide that-- users will.  

-- Will data transfer from one to the other?  Yes.  We have already  
done that with a prototype application, and once we finish making a  
few more changes to the OMERO  back end.

Have a look at the various on-line resources.  if you have any more  
questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

Thanks again for your support.

Cheers,

Jason

On 18 Jan 2008, at 09:24, Jerome Avondo wrote:

> hi,
>
> Thank you for the info.
>
> I managed to get the OMERO server setup and had a play with the  
> clients. Looks very nice, but it seems to be missing alot of the  
> functionality of OME.
>
> So it seems OME is the only real way forward to address the needs  
> of the Lab I am in. We use Matlab quite extensively for our image  
> analysis, so Matlab integration is a requirement.
>
> I am still not clear to why the Open Microscopy Group has these two  
> projects. So have the following questions I think I should try and  
> understand before I make a decision.
>
> 1) Is OMERO planned to one day substitute OME?
>
> 2) If (1) is true will moving from OME to OMERO be feasable?
>
> 3) If (1) is true again, whats wrong with OME?
>
> I had a good look around the website but couldnt really find any  
> information regarding this. If anybody could shed some ligth I  
> would greatly appreciate. Maybe I just misunderstood something....
>
> Regards,
>
> j.
>
> --------------------------------------
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>
> > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:02:07 +0100
> > From: mvalle at cscs.ch
> > To: jeromeavondo at msn.com
> > CC: ome-users at lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk
> > Subject: Re: [ome-users] Simple Question, OME or OMERO?
> >
> > If I understand correctly,
> > you still need OME if you need Matlab integration.
> > Also from what I see from the documentation, OMERO setup is more  
> complex.
> > Well, right now I'm still fighting with OME to make it work for  
> my researchers.
> > Hope it helps...
> > mario
> >
> > Jerome Avondo wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I am looking at database solutions for microscopy images. The  
> lab I work
> > > in generates substantial quantities of 3D, 4D datasets with  
> various
> > > imaging methods.
> > >
> > > As I understand currently the Open Microscopy Environment group  
> has two
> > > solutions on offer;
> > >
> > > 1) the older OME system
> > > 2) or the newer beta OMERO system
> > >
> > > It is not clear from your site which is the solution new  
> adopters should
> > > jump aboard. Is the OMERO beta at a stage that this can be used  
> in the
> > > real world, or would you recomend sticking with the older non- 
> beta OME
> > > solution. What are the PROS/CONS of each solution you offer?
> > >
> > > If you could point me in the right direction to make this  
> decision I
> > > would be very greatful.
> > >
> > > many thanks & kind regards,
> > >
> > > jerome.
> > > <http://www.avondo.com>
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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