[ome-devel] Collaborate on omero-web figure

William Moore will at lifesci.dundee.ac.uk
Tue Jul 21 10:00:13 BST 2015


Hi Kai,

 Thanks for the suggestions. (added to https://github.com/ome/figure/issues/95).

I'll think about how notifications could be used to improve the collaboration on figures.

 Regards,

  Will.


On 14 Jul 2015, at 16:33, Kai Schleicher <kai.schleicher at unibas.ch> wrote:

> Hi Will and Sebastian,
> 
> Thanks so much for your replies.
> 
> I understand that this is not so straight forward to solve. Especially since I think that RW permissions on all Data is not the most desirable thing, it would be better if that's just for figures. Combined with a "lock" function, this could work.
> 
> Maybe as another option, Niko suggested that using the RA permissions, people could still work on separate copies of a figure. However, they could be notified if someone has an updated version of this figure stored with his account (like a "fork"), so they could be allowed to download it and work on that updated version instead.
> 
> Cheers,
> Kai
> 
> On 13.07.2015 23:56, William Moore wrote:
>> Hi Kai,
>> 
>>  Thanks for the suggestion (and Sebastien for replying).
>> 
>> As Sebastien says, you'd need to be in a Read-Write group to allow multiple users to edit the same figure.
>> This might be a problem if you don't want read-write permissions on ALL other data in the group.
>> 
>> Another issue is how to allow different users to edit the same file without potentially 
>> overwriting each other's changes.
>> OMERO.figure doesn't support google-docs style of editing (where every change is atomic and the diff is
>> saved to the server).
>> Instead, the whole file is saved each time, so if 2 users were editing a figure at the same time,
>> there's no way to merge both their changes.
>> You'd need a "lock" on the file to tell you that another user was currently editing and ensure that
>> only 1 user edits at a time.
>> 
>> I guess something like a simple "lock" shouldn't be too hard to implement, so the main question
>> is still the issue of Read-Write permissions on figures, IF you don't want Read-Write permissions
>> on all your other data.
>> 
>>  Cheers,
>> 
>>   Will.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 13 Jul 2015, at 21:08, "Sebastien Besson (Staff)" <s.besson at dundee.ac.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Kai
>>> 
>>> as always, thanks for the feedback. I had a quick go at it and it seems this
>>> functionality is not available at the moment.
>>> 
>>> However, it seems to me it should be possible to use the new Read-Write group
>>> system introduced in 5.1.2 where members of the same group can edit an annotation
>>> to introduce the full collaborative mode you are describing.
>>> 
>>> Will is currently on leave but I opened a GitHub issue [1] to track your suggestion.
>>> We can discuss it when he comes back and get back to you.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Sebastien
>>> 
>>> [1] https://github.com/ome/figure/issues/95
>>> 
>>>> On 11 Jul 2015, at 10:05, Kai Schleicher <kai.schleicher at unibas.ch> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I noticed that its possible in Omero web figure to open and save a copy of another persons figure from the same group, which is a great feature to share figures!
>>>> 
>>>> Now I was wondering whether there is a way for several people to work on the same figure, rather than on separate copies.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kai
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