[ome-devel] OMERO.features: Development of a new API for storing image features
Lee Kamentsky
leek at broadinstitute.org
Mon Jul 22 14:23:48 BST 2013
I'm forwarding this thread onto our internal imaging platform list - we
have several researchers here whose job is analyzing the sorts of feature
sets that would be an output of the spec. If you all could read the whole
thread and contribute, I think it would be helpful. Otherwise, I think
Chris represents much of our perspective well, so nothing more to say.
--Lee
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Coletta, Christopher (NIH/NIA/IRP) [E] <
christopher.coletta at nih.gov> wrote:
> Hey Jason et. al, I didn't forget about ya!
>
> By the way, cheers to Simon for soliciting feedback for the API design, to
> Ivan Cao-Berg and the Murphy group for putting forward pyslic/pyslid, and
> to Lee Kamentsky for his CellProfiler insights.
>
> Lets talk about the part of the API that deals specifically with retrieval
> of features from OMERO (the "feature query interface"). Most supervised
> learning classifiers/clustering algorithms entail measuring distances
> between images in high-dimensional feature space. Ideally there'd be an
> OMERO.features API call that would construct the feature space, i.e.,
> return a 2D matrix where the rows are the points in space corresponding to
> image or ROI, and the columns are the individual features which are the
> dimensions in feature space.
>
> At first it seems pretty trivial to construct the feature matrix. Just
> specify a list of ids for images or ROIs, get back their corresponding
> feature vectors, stack them into a matrix, and you're done, right?
>
> Not quite. First, there are the many ways an image/ROI can be preprocessed
> as Lee K. mentioned, including highlighting structures of interest,
> segmentation, cropped out into ROIs, transformation, rotation,
> normalization, etc. After all the preprocessing, you end up with what I
> call the "sample," which simply means the pixels/voxels which are the
> substrate upon which the feature algorithms operate. There are countless
> ways to sample an image, and each sample will have its own corresponding
> feature vector. You may want to build your feature space by mixing and
> matching between these feature vectors. The simplest example is with
> multi-channel images: running WND-CHARM on an RGB image can result in the
> entire battery of feature algorithms being run on all three channels, and
> three separate feature vectors are generated. And it's perfectly acceptable
> to construct a single classifier feature space using features from all
> three channels. It may be useful to keep the CellProfiler/Pyslic/WND-CHARM
> feature sets in their own containers, but still provide the option to mix
> and match, or add new batteries of algorithms like Lee K. mentioned. The
> features used and sampling can vary by image modality and can vary from
> experiment to experiment.
>
> The hierarchical nature of feature data is what made Simon choose HDF5
> files stored on a per-image basis as the back-end in the first generation
> of OMERO-WND-CHARM. But for datasets that consist of thousands of
> images/ROIs, this solution might not scale well, which is why Simon was
> interested in a NoSQL database for feature storage where the schema about
> what can be stored is not strict.
>
> A generalized API to construct this 2D feature matrix should allow for
> three types of user inputs:
> 1. Image/ROI ids indicating what will be represented in feature space
> (i.e., rows)
> 2. List of the features or feature families that are relevant (i.e.,
> columns)
> 3. Specification of how to pack the features into the rows, i.e., should
> each image/ROI gets its own row, or should one row contain features from
> multiple images/ROIs/samples.
>
> An example to illustrate #3: We're developing a classifier to diagnose
> bacterial and viral pneumonia. We have chest X-rays images, each of which
> have been segmented into 12 regions based on anatomy. Experimental design
> may dictate that the 12 ROIs may be considered as 12 individual points in
> feature space (more rows, less columns), or they may count as a single
> point for the purpose of classification (more columns, less rows).
>
> A simple feature query API call would be similar to the SQL query "SELECT
> FeatureA, FeatureB, FeatureC FROM FeatureTable WHERE image = (list of
> ids)". The user would provide a list of image ROI ids, and a list of
> features in the form of some human-readable, machine-parseable sturcture
> which would contain all the information for how that feature was
> calculated, including all preprocessing information, channel information.
> You could say that every individual feature could be uniquely identified
> for a given image/ROI/sample by its own feature "street address". In
> WND-CHRM we accomplish this using strings that have nested parentheses and
> brackets in the form "<Algorithm> ( <Transform> (<Channel> ) ) [ Feature
> Index ]" The API call might look something like this:
>
> roi_id_list = [ 24, 67, 89, 103 ]
> desired_feature_list = [ \
> 'Zernike Coefficients (Fourier (Wavelet (Red))) [52]',
> 'Gini Coefficient (Wavelet (Fourier (Green))) [0]',
> 'Chebyshev Coefficients (Wavelet (Blue)) [19]' ,
> 'Radon Coefficients (Green) [12]' ]
>
> feature_matrix = GenerateFeatureSpace( roi_id, desired_feature_list )
>
> A 4x3 Numpy matrix with the corresponding features would then be returned
> into feature_matrix. The feature street addresses don't have to be strings,
> they can be some can be some map/dict/class where the components of the
> feature address are more structured. Or each feature street address could
> be composed of a bunch of tags.
>
> It's possible at query time the feature for the given image/ROI/sample
> hasn't even been calculated yet. The API would need to satisfy the request
> either from features stored in the database or calculated on the fly.
> BISQUE has functionality that works like this called the Feature Service.
>
> Sorry for the long email. I'm excited to work with you all to move the
> ball forward on this project!
> Chris C.
>
> On Jul 19, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Jason Swedlow wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> A quick plea not to drop this thread. Input from Ivan and Chris C. would
> be most welcome. These applications are very important and getting this API
> nailed down-- at least for a first draft-- would be hugely helpful.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jason
>
>
> Jason Swedlow, PhD, FRSE
> Centre for Gene Regulation & Expression
> Open Microscopy Environment
> University of Dundee
> http://openmicroscopy.org<http://openmicroscopy.org/>
>
>
>
>
> Lee Kamentsky <leek at broadinstitute.org<mailto:leek at broadinstitute.org>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I think it's great that Bob Murphy's group has implemented pyslic and
> pyslid in an open-source framework like OMERO. It looks like a substantial
> body of work. I'm wondering what needs to be done to make it a
> general-purpose framework however, especially looking at it from the
> perspective of our group's experience with CellProfiler. Also, Simon,
> thanks for moving this forward.
>
> My reading of the pyslic code is that it supports a nuclear stain and a
> protein stain and calculates a standard set of per-image and per-object
> features (although I haven't quite figured out the storage mechanism for
> the object features). This is adequate for a large class of experiments
> involving two-color fluorescently-labeled samples and it's likely the
> methods are robust, but our experience has been that experimental protocols
> can be more varied (multiple protein stains, brightfield images) and the
> biological questions can require additional image preprocessing to
> highlight the structures of interest, often requiring tuning parameters
> specific to the structure scale. Because of this, I think that the
> framework needs a modular architecture that supports development of new
> algorithms by computational researchers and configuration by the end users
> and it needs to extend beyond a curated code-base to allow for innovation.
> Personally, I'm really pleased that the framework is in Python because it
> aligns well with our group, but perhaps this is limiting for the ImageJ
> community and perhaps some portion of CellProfiler's bridge between Python
> and ImageJ could be adapted to supply the connection.
>
> I think that we do need a platform for innovation and the keys to that are
> interoperability, standards, and a model of the analysis that is flexible
> enough to describe our community's experiments and that captures the
> analysis protocol in a reproducible manner. I'm going to outline my
> perspective on the model here, drawing on our group's experience with
> CellProfiler, and try to keep it brief. I see the components of the model
> being:
>
> * Fields of view - N dimensional spaces (X, Y, T, Z, spectral)
> representing an imaging site
> * Images - acquired image data on a field of view (with acquisition
> metadata) or similar produced by algorithms such as filters or
> morphological operations.
> * Segmentations - defining multiple regions of interest on the fields of
> view or on (hyper)planes of the fields of view
> * Relationships between segmented regions - links between segmented
> regions either within segmentations or across them. Examples might be
> time-lapse cell tracking, associations between nuclear and cellular
> segmentations or groupings of organelle segmentations within a cell.
> * Measurements - data computed on the images, segmentations and
> relationships within a field of view. My take on this is that a measurement
> produces a numeric feature value per image or per segmentation region, but
> perhaps that's too narrow.
> * Protocol - a description of how to perform the analysis. I think the key
> elements are a link to the OMERO screen and a list of the parameterized
> algorithms to be performed. The screen provides image inputs to the
> algorithms which are the available image acquisition channels and the
> algorithms themselves provide images, segmentations, relationships and
> measurements which can serve as inputs to other algorithms in the protocol.
> Algorithms will often be parameterizable by the user and these parameters
> should be captured by the protocol. Ideally, the protocol should capture
> the versions of the algorithms using a mechanism such as a GIT hash. In
> CellProfiler, we have algorithms that produce an aggregated image based on
> samples from many fields of view, for instance an estimate of differences
> in signal magnitude across the field of view caused by non-uniform
> illumination - algorithms might have stacks of images as inputs and these
> stacks might span individual fields of view.
>
> As far as the actual mechanics, I see OMERO or similar using the protocol
> as a dependency graph, fetching the algorithms using some
> community-standard mechanism (maven? pip?), providing inputs as specified
> by the protocol and harvesting the outputs for the database and for
> dependent algorithms. I have some detailed concerns about algorithm
> input/output introspection and discovery, but ImageJ 2.0's plugin
> introspection protocol (@parameter) is a good starting point (thanks ImageJ
> 2.0).
>
> OK - somewhat CellProfiler-centric perhaps, but the nice thing about OMERO
> is that it is a relational database and the protocol is the thing itself -
> not a description of the experiment, but a mineable map of how each number
> is produced especially if the protocol pieces are described relationally in
> the database. I think the above is an ambitious undertaking, but look at
> the result! Researchers can trade protocols which produce robust and
> comparable values (not just "nuclear area", but the nuclear area after
> illumination correction and segmentation using Otsu thresholding and a
> seeded watershed of HeLa cells stained with DAPI). Developers can publish
> their method in OMERO and possibly OMERO itself can generate citations
> based on a protocol, leading to better accreditation of our work. And OMERO
> itself becomes a sustainable platform for analysis with a well-defined
> interoperable API for image processing.
>
> Hope this all gives things a positive lift, thx for reading this far,
> --Lee
>
> On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Simon Li <s.p.li at dundee.ac.uk<mailto:
> s.p.li at dundee.ac.uk>> wrote:
> Hi everyone
>
> It was great to see so many people interested in OMERO.searcher and
> WND-CHRM at the Paris meeting, both those who were interested in installing
> it on their own systems and also those of you who were interested in
> developing other analysis algorithms for use with OMERO.
>
> One of the main points that came up was that OMERO should provide a single
> API for storing and calculating image features. Robert Murphy's group at
> CMU have already developed PySLID [http://github.com/icaoberg/pyslid], a
> python module for calculating and storing features used with
> OMERO.searcher, so I'd like to propose we bring this into the
> openmicroscopy GitHub organisation, and rename it to OMERO.features (other
> suggestions are welcome).
> Then there's the much bigger task of modifying the module to cater for
> everyone's requirements. I can see several potential issues, including how
> we handle multiple channels, z-slices, timepoints, ROIs, etc since features
> can be calculated for these individually or as a whole.
>
> If anyone has any thoughts or comments on what they'd like to see it'd be
> great if you could share them with the rest of this list, or if you prefer
> on our forums.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Simon
>
>
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