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<div class="">On 1 Apr 2017, at 19:21, Michael Porter (Staff) <<a href="mailto:m.porter@dundee.ac.uk" class="">m.porter@dundee.ac.uk</a>> wrote:</div>
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<span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">omero_client.jar (of course)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div>
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On 31 Mar 2017, at 19:48, Curtis Rueden <<a href="mailto:ctrueden@wisc.edu" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">ctrueden@wisc.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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Quick searches suggest that that error is some macOS Cocoa error message. I am guessing it is generated by MATLAB itself. I doubt there is anything you can do about it, although perhaps the old "binary code search" trick might help you isolate what triggers
it. That is: comment out half your code, such that the remaining half still runs. Run it. See if the error happens. If the error happens, command another half of the remaining code. Or if it doesn't occur, uncomment half of the commented code. Ideally, this
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SLF4J: Found binding in [jar:file:/Applications/MATLAB/MATLAB_Runtime/v91/java/jarext/slf4j/slf4j-log4j12.jar!/org/slf4j/impl/StaticLoggerBinder.class]<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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SLF4J: Found binding in [jar:file:/Users/imunro/Library/Application%20Support/.mcrCache9.1/FLIMfi0/BFMatlab/bioformats_package.jar!/org/slf4j/impl/StaticLoggerBinder.class]<br class="">
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