<html><head><style>body{font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px}</style></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">Hi all,</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">I am writing Python software that should be able to load data from various microscope manufacturers. I therefore went for the awesome OME / bioformats library. In order to access it from Python, I am using python-bioformats (https://github.com/CellProfiler/python-bioformats/tree/master/bioformats).</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">Now I ran into the following issue: In some cases, I would like to first preprocess the files in ImageJ (e.g. extract one series). So I do that and save using Plugins->Bio Formats->Bio Formats Exporter, as an .ome.tiff.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">When I then load the file in my software, the number of slices in C and T are switched. Also, I can’t directly access metadata about channels. Apparently, the original metadata is encapsulated in a deeper layer. When I access the description of the first level of metadata, I get another omexml with approximately the original metadata - but it is rearranged in a way that makes me unable to access it the same way I access the original files (which are DeltaVision .dv files in this case). See below for example metadata of an original file and of a IJ-saved file.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">However, when I load the .ome.tiff into ImageJ, the Bio-formats importer reads the correct metadata, so it should be possible to let bioformats do the work, I suspect.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">Could anyone point me to a place where the Importer checks and finds the nested and correct metadata? Or tell me the solution?</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">I have tried to look here</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><a href="https://github.com/openmicroscopy/bioformats/blob/develop/components/bio-formats-plugins/src/loci/plugins/in/ImporterMetadata.java">https://github.com/openmicroscopy/bioformats/blob/develop/components/bio-formats-plugins/src/loci/plugins/in/ImporterMetadata.java</a></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">and here</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><a href="https://github.com/openmicroscopy/bioformats/blob/develop/components/formats-bsd/utils/mipav/PlugInBioFormatsImporter.java">https://github.com/openmicroscopy/bioformats/blob/develop/components/formats-bsd/utils/mipav/PlugInBioFormatsImporter.java</a></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">, didn’t find anything suspicious, and am slightly overwhelmed with the size of the project.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">This is how python-bioformats gets metadata:</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><a href="https://github.com/CellProfiler/python-bioformats/blob/master/bioformats/formatreader.py#L992">https://github.com/CellProfiler/python-bioformats/blob/master/bioformats/formatreader.py#L992</a></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">Thanks very much</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">    Heinrich</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">————————————— Metadata of series 0 of original .dv(DeltaVision) file with 1 series————————————  </div><div><?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?><OME xmlns="http://www.openmicroscopy.org/Schemas/OME/2015-01" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.openmicroscopy.org/Schemas/OME/2015-01 http://www.openmicroscopy.org/Schemas/OME/2015-01/ome.xsd"><Instrument ID="Instrument:0"><Objective Correction="PlanApo" ID="Objective:10612" Immersion="Oil" LensNA="1.42" Manufacturer="Olympus" Model="1-U2B933" NominalMagnification="60.0" WorkingDistance="150.0" WorkingDistanceUnit="µm"/></Instrument><Image ID="Image:0" Name="DeltaVision_Test.dv"><InstrumentRef ID="Instrument:0"/><ObjectiveSettings ID="Objective:10612"/><Pixels BigEndian="false" DimensionOrder="XYCZT" ID="Pixels:0" Interleaved="false" PhysicalSizeX="0.10829800367355347" PhysicalSizeXUnit="µm" PhysicalSizeY="0.10829800367355347" PhysicalSizeYUnit="µm" PhysicalSizeZ="0.20000000298023224" PhysicalSizeZUnit="µm" SignificantBits="16" SizeC="3" SizeT="1" SizeX="2048" SizeY="2048" SizeZ="1" Type="uint16"><Channel EmissionWavelength="676.0" EmissionWavelengthUnit="nm" ExcitationWavelength="632.0" ExcitationWavelengthUnit="nm" ID="Channel:0:0" NDFilter="0.0" SamplesPerPixel="1"><LightPath/></Channel><Channel EmissionWavelength="632.0" EmissionWavelengthUnit="nm" ExcitationWavelength="575.0" ExcitationWavelengthUnit="nm" ID="Channel:0:1" NDFilter="0.0" SamplesPerPixel="1"><LightPath/></Channel><Channel EmissionWavelength="523.0" EmissionWavelengthUnit="nm" ExcitationWavelength="475.0" ExcitationWavelengthUnit="nm" ID="Channel:0:2" NDFilter="0.0" SamplesPerPixel="1"><LightPath/></Channel><MetadataOnly/><Plane DeltaT="0.0" DeltaTUnit="s" ExposureTime="2.0" ExposureTimeUnit="s" PositionX="1688.268" PositionXUnit="reference frame" PositionY="-431.984" PositionYUnit="reference frame" PositionZ="0.0" PositionZUnit="reference frame" TheC="0" TheT="0" TheZ="0"/><Plane DeltaT="2.4860000610351562" DeltaTUnit="s" ExposureTime="5.0" ExposureTimeUnit="s" PositionX="1688.268" PositionXUnit="reference frame" PositionY="-431.984" PositionYUnit="reference frame" PositionZ="0.0" PositionZUnit="reference frame" TheC="1" TheT="0" TheZ="0"/><Plane DeltaT="7.808000087738037" DeltaTUnit="s" ExposureTime="10.0" ExposureTimeUnit="s" PositionX="1688.268" PositionXUnit="reference frame" PositionY="-431.984" PositionYUnit="reference frame" PositionZ="0.0" PositionZUnit="reference frame" TheC="2" TheT="0" TheZ="0"/></Pixels></Image><StructuredAnnotations xmlns="http://www.openmicroscopy.org/Schemas/SA/2015-01"><XMLAnnotation ID="Annotation:0" Namespace="openmicroscopy.org/OriginalMetadata"><Value><OriginalMetadata><Key>Wavelength 3 min. intensity</Key><Value>1641.0</Value></OriginalMetadata></Value></XMLAnnotation><XMLAnnotation ID="Annotation:1" Namespace="openmicroscopy.org/OriginalMetadata"><Value><OriginalMetadata><Key>DeltaVision_Test.dv Extended header Z0 W2 T0:photosensorReading</Key><Value>3809518.0</Value></OriginalMetadata></Value></XMLAnnotation><XMLAnnotation ID="Annotation:2" Namespace="openmicroscopy.org/OriginalMetadata"><Value><OriginalMetadata><Key>DeltaVision_Test.dv Extended header Z0 W0 T0:ndFilter</Key><Value>0.0</Value></OriginalMetadata></Value></XMLAnnotation><XMLAnnotation ID="Annotation:3" Namespace="openmicroscopy.org/OriginalMetadata"><Value><OriginalMetadata><Key>X axis angle</Key><Value>90.0</Value></OriginalMetadata></Value></XMLAnnotation><XMLAnnotation ID="Annotation:4" Namespace="openmicroscopy.org/OriginalMetadata"><Value><OriginalMetadata><Key>DeltaVision_Test.dv Extended header Z0 W0 T0:maxInten</Key><Value>7108.0</Value></OriginalMetadata></Value></XMLAnnotation><XMLAnnotation ID="Annotation:5" Namespace="openmicroscopy.org/OriginalMetadata"><Value><OriginalMetadata><Key>DeltaVision_Test.dv Extended header Z0 W1 T0:energyConvFactor</Key><Value>1.0</Value></OriginalM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