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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Okay great, thanks, that worked and I can download the data and open in FLIMfit. This style of viewing/processing with our current
tools but with the OMERO backend would actually be great. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I’m not sure if you saw my additional questions below the image in the previous email, but as for the next step, what do you think
would be the best way to proceed? I suspect that probably it would be for me to write a Bio-Formats reader for imzML?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Munro, Ian<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 07 January 2016 12:16<br>
<b>To:</b> OME External Developer List <ome-devel@lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ome-devel] Spectral Chemical Imaging Data<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Alan <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sorry I should have said that you need to select user Ian Munro when you select the group.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">By default the OMERO clients show you your own data only.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ian <img width="548" height="371" id="BE4CFCB8-A94E-4C27-83CC-51B553014A3F" src="cid:image001.png@01D14946.D3045570"><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 7 Jan 2016, at 12:06, Alan Race <<a href="mailto:alan.race@npl.co.uk">alan.race@npl.co.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I have logged in and can select the “Experimental Formats” group, but I still don’t see any data. I could be looking in the wrong place I guess?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hopefully it shouldn’t be too difficult a task for me to implement a Bio-Formats reader as I’ve already written a library to read imzML data, so theoretically
should be able to just call the appropriate methods in that. How would be the best way to go about writing a Bio-Formats reader? Can anyone contribute to the Bio-Formats project?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thank you very much for the details and the illustration of the data in FLIMfit. The image looks correct, but the spectral dimension looks wrong – is that due
to FLIMfit somehow, or should that be displaying the full raw spectral dimension? From your experience, how difficult was it to adapt your tools to be OMERO clients?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Ian<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>07 January 2016 09:56<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>OME External Developer List <<a href="mailto:ome-devel@lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk"><span style="color:purple">ome-devel@lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk</span></a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[ome-devel] Spectral Chemical Imaging Data</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Happy New Year to you as well Alan.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you log in again now and change group to “Experimental Formats” you should hopefully be able to see some data under “Mass spec proof of concept/MouseCerebellum”.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If this file format were to be supported in OME the first step would be to write a Bio-Formats reader. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In order to give a flavour of what that might look like I have attempted to extract the data (N.B. not metadata) from your file and write it into OME-TIFF files for which a reader already exists.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The first file there “MouseCerebellumC" - I have mapped your data into the 5D OME data model with m/z as channels , which seemed to me most appropriate.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Unfortunately this image is not easy to view using the standard OMERO clients which, for historical reasons, interpret large numbers of channels as time. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From our earlier discussions, however it seemed likely that you would want a spectrum oriented view so in the second file “MouseCerebellumT” I’ve stored the data as if it were FLIM data with m/z mapped to time(t).<o:p></o:p></p>
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