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<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Apologies for the slow response.</div>
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<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">We’ve discussed this before on this list. As Kees mentioned, DAX Archiving has a commercial product you might check out. Make sure it supports the version you need.</div>
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<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">On the open source side, archiving was discussed a lot at our 2013 Users Mtg (<a href="http://www.openmicroscopy.org/site/community/minutes/meetings/june-2013-paris-users-meeting/?searchterm=pasteur">http://www.openmicroscopy.org/site/community/minutes/meetings/june-2013-paris-users-meeting</a>),
and frankly, ever since. The challenge for us is making a generic solution that supports the wide range of archiving solutions available. </div>
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<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">You mention relocating images onto tape. When we’ve looked at this in the past, we don’t see a generic community-based API we can support (we have a TSM hierarchical system in Dundee, so are very familiar with
this tech). If anyone has any insight or suggestions for solving this problem, do let us know. It is critically important that we address this issue, ideally with community guidance and help.</div>
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<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Thanks for this comment.</div>
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<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Cheers,</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Kees Machielsen <<a href="mailto:Kees.Machielsen@daxarchiving.com">Kees.Machielsen@daxarchiving.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Wednesday, 1 October 2014 09:12<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Yanling Liu <<a href="mailto:vrnova@gmail.com">vrnova@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>OME Development <<a href="mailto:ome-devel@lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk">ome-devel@lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [ome-devel] data archiving options<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Hello Yanling,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">We have developed a solution for this. You can find more on
<a href="http://www.omerostoragemanager.com">www.omerostoragemanager.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">That website also contains a downloadable version for evaluation.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Please understand this is a commercially available product supported by DAX Archiving Solutions B.V.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Feel free to contact me for more information.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Best regards, Kees Machielsen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> ome-devel [<a href="mailto:ome-devel-bounces@lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk">mailto:ome-devel-bounces@lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Yanling Liu<br>
<b>Sent:</b> dinsdag 30 september 2014 21:04<br>
<b>To:</b> OME OME-devel<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ome-devel] data archiving options<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Supposedly in OME we have some old projects, we want to keep the record but nobody is likely to access these projects in foreseeable future.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One straight forward thinking is to keep project records in OME database but relocate images on disk to somewhere else such as tape. The benefit for doing this is to free up expensive enterprise storage space (which is raid 6 like).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">However, if we do this, when people trying to access these old projects (if it is happens), OME will have trouble to load these old images unless we manually restore images from tape.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I wonder what would be you opinion on this.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yanling<o:p></o:p></p>
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