<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Hans-<div><br></div><div>Thanks much. &nbsp;SVI was one of the first commercial entities to adopt and embrace OME-XML, and we very much appreciate your continued support.</div><div><br></div><div>The link for the PDF is on the page:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://jcb.rupress.org/content/189/5/777.full.pdf+html">http://jcb.rupress.org/content/189/5/777.full.pdf+html</a></div><div><br></div><div>It's available to me from home, without VPN, so am pretty sure it is publicly available (also, it's now marked 'free access'). &nbsp;You can put that link anywhere, and anyone should be able to download the PDF. &nbsp;Alternatively, send them to the abstract page and they can decide what the want to do (<a href="http://jcb.rupress.org/content/189/5/777.abstract">http://jcb.rupress.org/content/189/5/777.abstract</a>).</div><div><br></div><div>You can link to it, you just can't mirror for the first 6 months. &nbsp;After that, you can mirror, but you just need to attribute the original source.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Jason</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 1 Jun 2010, at 17:43, Hans wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Dear Jason,<br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Today, we are publishing a commentary on file formats in the Journal<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">of Cell Biology. &nbsp;The full text is available at:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://jcb.rupress.org/content/189/5/777">http://jcb.rupress.org/content/189/5/777</a><br></blockquote><br>Excellent initiative! Fabulous!<br>I always hope that someday we can stop wasting our time writing, updating and patching all those crazy formats.<br>Is there a pdf to be found of the paper, somewhere? If I understand correctly, we can start linking to that pdf in 6 months, right?<br><br>Cheers, Hans<br><br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The article represents OME's position on the continued explosion of<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">file formats in biological imaging. &nbsp;As we move towards more complex<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">data, greater opportunities for data sharing and collaboration, and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">rapidly developing image repositories, we strongly contend &nbsp;that the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">current situation must evolve. &nbsp;New file formats should not be created<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">with every new software release. &nbsp;At the very least, the option of<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">writing data to open, standardized file formats must be supported in<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">all software, whether open or proprietary. &nbsp;We understand that<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">exceptional cases exists where specialized image data or metadata<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">requires proprietary, custom formats. &nbsp;However, our experience with<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">OME-XML and Bio-Formats suggests that the great majority of metadata<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">can be supported in open data formats. &nbsp;For this reason, we believe<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">that the option of writing image data to an open file format that<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">includes support for image acquisition metadata should be mandatory in<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">all imaging software.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Our article contains a number of recommendations for driving use of<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">standardized file formats. &nbsp;Most importantly, we believe that those<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">who decide on which platforms to invest in should use their purchasing<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">power to demand support for open file formats. &nbsp;Realistically, this is<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the only way these file formats will be universally used and supported.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">In this article, we have announced a new spec, the OME Compliant<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Specification. &nbsp;This simply uses standard OME-XML, and requires that<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">all components of the Image Element are filled in. &nbsp;We see this as a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">first step towards a more complete set of metadata for imaging. &nbsp;The<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">documentation for the OME Compliant Specification is at:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> &nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://ome-xml.org/wiki/CompliantSpecification">http://ome-xml.org/wiki/CompliantSpecification</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">A key point is that an 'OME Compliant' file is as complete as<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">possible, but only contains metadata relevant to a specific imaging<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">experiment. &nbsp;The expectation is not that every field is filled out<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">regardless of the experiment, but that all fields that are relevant to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">an experiment are completed. &nbsp;As an example, PockelCellSetting would<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">not be used in most wide-field microscopy experiments, but would be<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">mandatory for many multi-photon imaging experiments. &nbsp;The goal of that<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">'best-effort' should be to document an experiment as completely as<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">possible, so another person could, with the same sample and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">microscope, reproduce the data recorded in the file.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">OME's own file formats, OME-XML and OME-TIFF are well exercised and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">supported by a number of commercial vendors (<a href="http://openmicroscopy.org/site/support/about/partners">http://openmicroscopy.org/site/support/about/partners</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">). &nbsp;We continue to work to develop and support these formats, and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">welcome any and all feedback on their design, use, and documentation.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">However, we recognize that OME-XML and OME-TIFF do not fulfill all<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">requirements for all imaging experiments. &nbsp;Many others (ICS, DICOM,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">NifTI) are available and will be more or less appropriate, depending<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">on a specific experiment. &nbsp;Individual scientists should decide which<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">of these formats must be supported, and which they will use. &nbsp;The<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">critical point is that image data and metadata are complete and openly<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">available for viewing and analysis.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">We appreciate any and all feedback on this issue.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">As always, thanks for your support.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Cheers,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Jason<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">**************************<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Wellcome Trust Centre for Gene Regulation&amp; &nbsp;Expression<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">College of Life Sciences<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">MSI/WTB/JBC Complex<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">University of Dundee<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Dow Street<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Dundee &nbsp;DD1 5EH<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">United Kingdom<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">phone (01382) 385819<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Intl phone: &nbsp;44 1382 385819<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">FAX &nbsp;&nbsp;(01382) 388072<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">email: <a href="mailto:jason@lifesci.dundee.ac.uk">jason@lifesci.dundee.ac.uk</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Lab Page: <a href="http://gre.lifesci.dundee.ac.uk/staff/jason_swedlow.html">http://gre.lifesci.dundee.ac.uk/staff/jason_swedlow.html</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Open Microscopy Environment: <a href="http://openmicroscopy.org">http://openmicroscopy.org</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">**************************<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The University of Dundee is a Scottish Registered Charity, No. SC015096.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">-------------- next part --------------<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">URL:&lt;<a href="http://lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk/pipermail/ome-devel/attachments/20100531/8f40cdae/attachment-0001.html">http://lists.openmicroscopy.org.uk/pipermail/ome-devel/at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